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Post by Keith Greenway on Sept 16, 2008 21:11:33 GMT
“ We have known for some time of the loss of Thomas Greenway and the ship SS Daybreak. Two other Kinsale men were aboard that fateful day. We would welcome any further information on these and other Kinsale and Irish Seamen who ‘crossed the bar’ and the opportunity to communicate our tribute to surviving relatives”.
For the record, the SS Daybreak was sunk as a result of a torpedo fired without warning by a German submarine on Christmas Eve 1917 near South Rock Lightship, Strangford Lough, off the Ards Peninsula, Co Down. Previous records stated that the vessel was sunk at Lough Swilly and this is even mentioned in the memorial card of Thomas Greenway.
Although a British ship registered in West Hartlepool on the North East coast of England, she was defensively armed due to the state of hostilities and actually survived a U-boat attack in the Arctic Ocean on November 1, 1916.
The three Kinsale men who died that day were: James Barrett, ordinary seaman, aged 18, son of Patrick and Hannah Barrett, Fisher Street (now Lower O’Connell Street).
William O’Connor, able seaman, aged 39, son of Michael and Ellen O’Connor and husband of Ellen (nee McCarthy), Higher (O’Connell) Street. He was born at Brownsmills.
Thomas Greenway, boatswain, aged 47, son of the late James and Mary Greenway and husband of the late Nora
Greenway.
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Post by KG on Sept 16, 2008 21:25:57 GMT
keith.
Below is the list of Kinsale and Co. Cork casualties I have recorded with the CWGC. Like I mentioned previous there could be others, but these are the only ones whose full details were forwarded by the RSS at Cardiff for submission, stating they were from Co. Cork. Many records of MN casualties submitted only had basic details, name age, rank/rating etc. and it was usually up to the next of kin to add any extra information for the records.
AUSTIN, Boatswain (Bosun), WILLIAM, M.V. Empire Spring (Greenock). Merchant Navy. 15th February 1942. Age 55. Son of Michael and Ellen Austin; husband of Julia Austin, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
BRICE, Master at Arms, JOSEPH, S.S. Laconia (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 12th September 1942. Age 59. Son of Joseph and Annie Brice; husband of Ellen Brice, of Upper Aghada, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
BUCKLEY, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Pacific (Hull). Merchant Navy. 9th February 1943. Age 22. Son of Michael and Elizabeth Buckley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
BUCKLEY, Donkeyman, MICHAEL, S.S. Baron Dechmont (Ardrossan). Merchant Navy. 3rd January 1943. Age 26. Son of James and Julia Buckley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic; husband of Eileen Buckley, of Barry, Glamorgan.
CARROL, Ordinary Seaman, PETER, S.S. Milos (Sweden). Merchant Navy. 11th March 1943. Age 18. Adopted son of Declan and Hannah Lynch, of Youghal, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
COLLINS, Fireman, JOHN, S.S. Empire Gold (London). Merchant Navy. 18th April 1945. Age 28. Son of Richard and Mary Collins, of Bandon, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
DINEEN, Second Radio Officer, PATRICK, S.S. Newbury (London). Merchant Navy. 15th September 1941. Age 21. Son of Michael John Dineen, and of Julia Dineen, of Gurranabraher, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
DOHERTY, Baker, WILLIAM, M.V. Pacific President (London). Merchant Navy. 2nd December 1940. Age 34. Son of William and Ellen Doherty, of Charleville, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
DONOVAN, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Kenbane Head (Belfast). Merchant Navy. 5th November 1940. Age 33. Son of Michael and Ellen Donovan, of Clonakilty, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
DRISCOLL, Able Seaman, DENIS, S.S. Henri Mory (Swansea). Merchant Navy. 26th April 1941. Age 35. Son of Florence and Mary Driscoll, of Cape Clear, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
DRISCOLL, Able Seaman, MICHAEL, S.S. Queensbury (London). Merchant Navy. 6th June 1941. Age 26. Son of Patrick and Hanore P. Driscoll, of Cape Clear, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
FARLEY, Boatswain, CORNELIUS, S.S. Induna (Glasgow). Merchant Navy. 30th March 1942. Age 36. Son of Cornelius and Catherine Farley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
FARLEY, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Baron Erskine (Ardrossan). Merchant Navy. 10th January 1942. Age 29. Son of Henry and Patience Farley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic; husband of Hannah Marie Farley, of Kinsale.
FENNELL, Able Seaman, PATRICK, S.S. Melmore Head (Belfast). Merchant Navy. 28th December 1942. Age 60. Son of Robert and Mary Fennell; husband of Mary Fennell, of Crosshaven, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
GREANY, First Radio Officer, JOHN, S.S. Pacific. Merchant Navy. 1st March 1941. Age 40. Son of John and Mary Greany, of Mallow, Co. Cork, Irish Republic. His brother, the Revd. James Brendan Greany, also died on service.
HAYES, Able Seaman, PATRICK, S.S. Trefusis (St. Ives). Merchant Navy. 5th March 1943. Age 32. Husband of Mary Hayes, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
HURLEY, Able Seaman, MICHAEL JAMES, S.S. Baron Erskine (Ardrossan). Merchant Navy. 10th January 1942. Age 39. Son of James and Elizabeth Hurley; husband of Esther Hurley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
JUDGE, Able Seaman, JOHN, S.S. Navasota (Southampton). Merchant Navy. 5th December 1939. Age 62. Son of Samuel and Mary Judge; husband of Catherine Judge, of Passage West, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
LEADER, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Fort Longueuil (London). Merchant Navy. 20th September 1943. Age 34. Son of George and Mary Leader, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
LYALL, Second Engineer Officer, GORDON, S.S. King Edward (London). Merchant Navy. 27th December 1942. Age 45. Son of John and Caroline Lyall; husband of Mary Anne Lyall, of Rushbrooke, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
MAHONEY, Able Seaman, JAMES, S.S. Melmore Head (Belfast). Merchant Navy. 28th December 1942. Age 31. Son of Patrick and Kate Mahoney, of Glandore, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
MURPHY, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Holystone (Newcastle-on-Tyne). Merchant Navy. 15th February 1941. Age 70. Son of Daniel and Margaret Murphy; husband of Mary Murphy, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
McCARTHY, Able Seaman, DANIEL, S.S. Kyle Rona (Glasgow). Merchant Navy. 16th February 1941. Age 21. Son of James and Mary Ellen McCarthy, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
McGRATH, Able Seaman, PATRICK JOSEPH, S.S. Empire Heritage (Cardiff). Merchant Navy. 8th September 1944. Age 24. Son of Thomas and Hannah McGrath, of Youghal, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
O'CONNELL, Third Engineer Officer, JAMES, S.S. Larpool (Whitby). Merchant Navy. 2nd November 1941. Age 53. Son of Michael and Essie O'Connell; husband of Helen O'Connell, of Hill Cove, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
O'DONOVAN, Able Seaman, JOHN, S.S. Oriskany (London). Merchant Navy. 24th February 1945. Age 34. Son of Timothy and Julia O'Donovan, of Church Cross, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
O'LEARY, Able Seaman, MICHAEL, S.S. Pearlmoor (London). Merchant Navy. 19th July 1940. Age 38. Son of Garrett and Mary O'Leary, of Scilly, Co. Cork, Irish Republic; husband of Annie O'Leary, of Kinsale, Co. Cork.
O'LEARY, Able Seaman, THOMAS, S.S. Lissa (Glasgow). Merchant Navy. 21st September 1941. Age 23. Son of Thomas and Ellen O'Leary, of Scilly, Co. Cork. Irish Republic.
POWER, Able Seaman, JAMES, S.S. Haig Rose (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 5th November 1940. Age 28. Son of John and Mary Power, of Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, Irish Republic; husband of Ellen Power, of Kinsale, Co. Cork.
PRIOR, First Radio Officer, MICHAEL, S.S. Tabaristan (London). Merchant Navy. 29th May 1941. Age 46. Son of John and Julia Prior; husband of Frances Elizabeth Prior, of Ovens, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
REGAN, Able Seaman, JOHN, S.S. Bjornvik (Norway). Merchant Navy. 29th January 1942. Age 31. Son of Maria Regan, of Cape Clear, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
REGAN, Able Seaman, KAREN, S.S. Canford Chine (Swansea). Merchant Navy. 8th February 1941. Age 24. Son of Maria Regan, of Cape Clear, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
ROCHE, Ticket Collector, EDMUND, S.S. St. Patrick (London). Merchant Navy. 13th June 1941. Age 60. Husband of Ellen Roche, of Mallow, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
SHEEHAN, Sailor, DANIEL JOSEPH, S.S. Sulaco (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 19th October 1940. Age 23. Son of Jeremiah and Alice Sheehan, of Ballydehob, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
SHEEHAN, Able Seaman, PATRICK, M.V. Melbourne Star (London). Merchant Navy. 2nd April 1943. Age 27. Son of Patrick and Annie Sheehan, of Berehaven, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
SHEEHAN, Able Seaman, RICHARD, S.S. Ocean Crusader. Merchant Navy. 26th November 1942. Age 53. Son of Jeremiah and Catherine Sheehan; husband of Anne Sheehan, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic.
Buried Ashore
BUCKLEY, Boatswain (Bosun), MICHAEL, M.V. Octane (Cardiff). Merchant Navy. 25th May 1941. Age 50. Son of Daniel and Elizabeth Buckley; husband of Elizabeth Buckley, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic. Buried Falmouth Cemetery. Sec. K. Row C. Grave 9.
ELLIS, Chief Officer, PATRICK, S.S. Letty (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 21st August 1940. Age 55. Son of William and Mary Ellis; husband of Bridget Ellis, of Courtmacsherry, Co. Cork, Irish Republic. Buried Southport (Duke St.) Cemetery Plot C. Coll. grave 1. (Screen Wall. Panel 1.)
LUCEY, Able Seaman, PATRICK JOSEPH, S.S. Westdale (Liverpool). Merchant Navy. 10th April 1942. Age 50. Son of Michael and Joan Anna Lucey; husband of Mary Christina Lucey, of Scilly Kinsale, Co. Cork, Irish Republic. Buried Barry (Merthyr Dyfan) Burial Ground) Sec. D. Grave 159.
LYNCH, Sailor, MICHAEL, S.S. British Renown (London). Merchant Navy. 24th June 1944. Age 17. Son of Richard and Catherine Lynch of Youghal, Co. Cork, Irish Republic. Buried Parkhurst Military Cemetery. Plot 20. Grave 213.
DEMS Gunner
HAYES, Stoker 1st Class, GEORGE JAMES, D/KX 121205. H.M.S. President III. Royal Navy. lost in S.S. Mendoza. 1st November 1942. Son of John and Hannah Ellen Hayes, of Kinsale, Co. Cork, Republic of Ireland.
Information provided by Mr. Billy McGee
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Post by Administrator on Sept 16, 2008 21:41:09 GMT
TIMOTHY F. MCCARTHY
(15/07/1888 – 16/03/1917)
BORN : LOWER COVE. KINSALE. IRELAND
DIED : KILLED IN ACTION. ENGLISH CHANNEL
NICKNAME : TIM
DUTY : LEADING SEAMAN
Tim was to have his life cut short, like so many other young men of his generation in World War 1. He had joined the Royal Navy Reserve as a Leading Seaman when on Friday 16th March 1917, just three weeks after signing up, and at the age of only 28, was killed in action at his gun post on board the S.S. Narragansett. The ship was torpedoed between the South West of Ireland and The Scilly Isles. His first day under enemy fire.
He went down with his ship along with all other 45 hands. Tim was the first of the I.T.A.E. members to die
Years later Frank Worsley paid his own tribute to Tim in his book “Shackleton’s Boat Journey”, when he wrote:
“How sad we should have been at parting with simple honest Tim McCarthy, had we known we should only see him once again for two days. He went down in the war, fighting his gun to the last – three short weeks after landing in England. A big brave, smiling, golden-hearted Merchant Service Jack- we, his shipmates who truly learned his worth in that boat journey, are proud of his memory. I always felt that, no matter where we were or what exalted company we might have been in, if Timothy McCarthy passed by he must be welcomed to a place of honour and given the best of everything, as befitted a brave man and one of nature’s gentlemen”
Tim is remembered on the Plymouth Naval Memorial Panel number 23.
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Post by KG on Sept 17, 2008 16:08:49 GMT
ROACH - Timothy of 3 Mandeville Terrace, Bandon Rd, Kinsale, Ireland, seaman; 33; at the Royal Sussex County Hospital; concussion of the brain the result of fracture of the skull and other injuries caused by the SS 'Luceston' on board which deceased was a seaman having been torpedoed by an enemy war vessel in the English Channel
ROACH COR/3/2/1918/4 7 Jan 1918
Contents:
Timothy of 3 Mandeville Terrace, Bandon Rd, Kinsale, Ireland, seaman; 33; at the Royal Sussex County Hospital; concussion of the brain the result of fracture of the skull and other injuries caused by the SS 'Luceston' on board which deceased was a seaman having been torpedoed by an enemy war vessel in the English Channel on 25 Dec 1917. Fragile: fungal damage
The one casualty refered to died later on 1/1/1918 in hospital at Brighton
Luciston, 2877 grt, built 1890 as Red Cross. Torpedoed by the German submarine UC 71 about 10 miles south of the Owers LV while on a voyage from Southampton to Boulogne with government stores on December 24, 1917. 1 Lost. Beached near Southampton but became a constructive total loss. Wreck dispersed Dec. 1923.
W. S. Miller & Co., Glasgow managed the vessel from 1913 on, and changed the name from Red Cross to Lucincita and then in 1917 to Luciston. Don't confuse this vessel with another Luciston managed by W. S. Miller & Co which was sunk on November 29, 1916 by UC 22 in the Mediterranean.
No casualties reported when she was torpedoed and sunsequently beached.
There was another Luciston, 2948 tons, owned by the same company (W S Miller, Glasgow) sunk by mine on 29 November 1916 in the Mediterranean a few miles east of Malta. Again, no casualties reported.
All information found in message board postings or from following leads from them, we thank the original authors for posting the information that greatly assists us in our search.
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Post by Kinsale Tribute on Sept 17, 2008 16:11:54 GMT
Kinsale
God bless the Fishermen, who go out on the sea,
Braving every wave, for the likes of you and me.
Riding every swell, the herring shoals to see,
Then trying to catch that wind, that brings them home for tea.
One minute it. s as clear as glass, the next as black as coal.
With the captain at the wheel, watching every roll.
The chef is in the galley, the coffees on the brew.
But I like my cup of tea, like Gandhi it is true.
And as the waves whirl me around and push me to and fro,
I wish that I was on dry land, a drinking I would go.
To see again the Heart and Crown, the Guinness and the crack,
To listen to those Irish songs, always bring me back.
It takes all kinds to make a world, as you can understand.
The sailor loves the open sea, the farmer likes the land.
The priest has his pulpit, where he can make his stand.
But I like best, when I can rest, my spider in my hand
Frank Taylor (Reproduced here in tribute)
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Post by LMH on Nov 12, 2008 0:51:56 GMT
Friendship pact bid for Barry and Kinsale Councils
BARRY and Kinsale Town Council have agreed to re-activate a bid to have a friendship pact between both local authorities which represent ports that have close family and maritime links.
In a letter to the September meeting of Kinsale TC, Mr. Derek Wolfe, executive officer of Barry TC said that following the local election in May, the issue was reconsidered on July 21 2008 by its finance, policy and general purposes committee of Welsh body and a show of hands revealed there was a majority of councillors in favour of a possible friendship pact.
“The whole matter will now go forward to a meeting of the town council” (held on September 15), wrote Mr. Wolfe who enquired if Kinsale TC still wished to enter into such a pact since the matter was last considered by Barry TC in June 2005.
On a proposal by Mr. Charles Henderson, seconded by Mr. Billy Lynch, it was unanimously agreed to re-activate efforts to have a friendship pact signed. Kinsale is officially twinned with Mumbles near Swansea but there is already in place a friendship pact between Kinsale Harbour Board and the Barry branch of the Merchant Navy Association (MNA) of Wales of which Kinsale descendant Mr. Jim Greenway is chairman.
Delegations from Barry, including members of the MNA, the Barry RNLI lifeboat and other bodies have in recent years, attended the annual Sea Sunday service and ceremonies with the most recent being Joe Norton, Pat Tobin, Keith Greenway and partner Raelene in May. In July, Mayor of Barry Stuart Egan and his wife Wendy were visitors to Kinsale in the course of celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary, where they were greeted by Mayor Dermot Collins and attended the Kinsale Regatta Festival reception.
Links between Wales and County Cork were forged in May when Barry Comprehensive School and Cardiff International Airport at Rhoose, near Barry joined forces to cope with the huge army of Munster rugby fans who attended the Heineken European Cup final against Toulouse at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff.
To avoid congestion at the airport after the victory, some of the 100 coaches were diverted to the school until their planes were ready for boarding where fans were able to relax and avail of canteen and toilet facilities. Sixth form students who were due to travel to Sri Lanka for charity work at the end of May served refreshments and in return received generous donations from many Munster supporters, some of them from Kinsale and the link up was reported in Barry News.
It all augurs well for the proposed friendship pact between Kinsale and Barry councils and hopefully links can be forged between the secondary and primary schools in both ports. David Swallow is head teacher at Barry Comprehensive
Leo McMahon
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